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Post by 10incher on Jul 18, 2005 23:47:10 GMT -6
I find more and more lately there are bad sellers on Ebay. I never used to have as many problems in the past as I have had in the past year or so. Sellers, grossly overcharging on shipping to make more money, stalling for weeks before shipping an item or just throwing the item in a box so it eventually comes to you broken.
There are to many people on Ebay now just for the money and they don't really care about anything else. Don't they feel bad about screwing over other people?
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Post by Hammer 0f The Gods on Jul 19, 2005 17:02:04 GMT -6
I doubt they feel bad at all as long as they get paid. My biggest complaint is outragous shipping charges. I guess its a way for them to make extra money without having to pay fees to ebay. Its even worse when you get the package and it has $1.50 stamped on the shipping label after you payed 5 times that.
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Post by catgut on Aug 22, 2005 15:14:07 GMT -6
hi i hope you dont mind me replying to this . im a ebay seller , and i mainly sell 1980 collectabes (from battle beasts to selvainian family ), im sorry to hear you have had a bad deal with some seller ,but not all are bad . im new to selling i agree ,but i do try my best i first got to send my very first item to the usa (i was dreading it as i never sent abroad before ) ,on my item i stated u.k. only but a lad wanted 1 figure out of the lot i had on . i email him telling him this ,he was disaponted so ,i sayed i would send the single item (a go bot for monsterus ) free , to see how it would go . it work fine (and he got a freebee )but i got to be able to offer my items abroad as i know what to do . so far i have sent afew items abroad with little bother (i did recive 1 netral feedback ,but nothing stated ,i email to see what the problem was ,no responce ,later i found out it was a retalation as he tryed to negotiat on p+p , i charged him £6 and it came to £5.09 and i gave him his change !! ,he tryed to to get it for u.k. p+p which would have been £2.00 ). i know not all sellers are like me (ok you only have my word for this ),but i do try my best to keep the cost of p+p to a minimum (even when paying with paypal ,i ask if thay want flat shipping ),i pack my items using bubble wrap, stifoam and air bladder which make it much lighter than paper . i also do not put a letter in the parcal ether as you have to pay more for this too . i know its bad that sellers do this ,but like in every thing theres always a bad apple
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Post by 10incher on Aug 22, 2005 15:21:35 GMT -6
Welcome to the forums Catgut. Don't get me wrong, there are allot of great Ebay Sellers out there especially the ones who collect themselves. I sell alott on Ebay as well (usually things other than action figures) which finances my figure collecting. It is always great to deal with sellers who actually care and it is good to hear that you are one of them ;D.
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Post by catgut on Aug 22, 2005 15:30:18 GMT -6
hi and thanks for the welcome . i know ive had bad dealing to (lol even from u.k. buyers ). but if i can help any of my buyers ill do my best to do so (if im emailed ,i try to reply within 24 hours ,normaly is less than 5 ,lol im normaly a bed ;D) if i can help any of yous i will do my best . i wished id come to the site earlyer as ive just sold a load of battle beast weapons and super natrals parts/figures (toom of doom ) but i still have loads of 1980 stuff left ;D
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Post by Hammer 0f The Gods on Aug 22, 2005 15:34:50 GMT -6
I agree with 10incher, not all sellers on ebay are bad. Every now and then I'll come accross someone who really goes out of their way on an auction. Its just when you do buy alot of stuff on ebay you tend to notice just how many piss poor sellers there are out there.
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Post by catgut on Aug 22, 2005 16:27:29 GMT -6
oh yer theres a lot of scaplets out there ,my be a new thread is needed ?. a ebay block buyers/sellers ? people whos had bad dealing with ether sellers or buys could add the name so others can be warned ?
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Post by 10incher on Aug 22, 2005 16:57:56 GMT -6
Good idea, if you start one up in the Trader Review section, I have a few to add.
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Post by catgut on Aug 23, 2005 1:48:27 GMT -6
job done ,itll help keep an eye on some of the bad buyers and seller . i know its a daft question ,but am i the only uk member ?
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Post by THE KNOCK-OFF MESSIAH on Aug 23, 2005 10:44:02 GMT -6
i ranted on this in the too much shipping thread
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Post by catgut on Aug 23, 2005 14:58:17 GMT -6
is that bad seller or p+p prices ? (i think i posted after yer )?
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Aug 30, 2005 8:16:16 GMT -6
Oddly enough I've had 99% great experiences on eBay...with a big exception last week.
Guy sells a Shazam Super Powers figure saying it's in excellent condition. He labels it as "Super Powers". So he KNOWS what this thing is. It's a collectible and junk. If it's in excellect condition it should be packaged so it STAYS that way.
He lists and charged $3.50 UPS Ground charge for shipping and in the mail I get the figure in one of those thin brown bubble wrap lined envelopes. The kind that can barely protect a thin CD jewel case.
So there's a bulge in the damned thing so it's protection was the pure luck that it didn't get crushed. AND it had a USPS postage sticker for $0.60!
I could care less about the $3 but it's the principle of the thing. Even with both problems I decided to be nice and give him neutral feedback. Saying he lied on shippng and packaged a collectible like crap.
He responds with something like "it's not broken so what's the problem?", then leaves ME neutral feedback saying "was not impressed". NOT IMPRESSED?! With what? My lightning fast payment?!
The guy acts like a huge dick and the kicker is up to this point I had 100% positive for the past 8 years. And while he had half the feedback I did, he had 100% positive until me for the past 2-3 years.
So even when everything points to the guy being cool. You can still get crap treatment.
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Post by Hammer 0f The Gods on Aug 31, 2005 8:35:08 GMT -6
Thats the problem with the feedback system. If someone screws you over and you leave a negative, they do the same just to get back at you. The one time I left a negative, they did the same and I haven't left negative feedback since. You can't win either way.
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Aug 31, 2005 8:46:43 GMT -6
Thats the problem with the feedback system. If someone screws you over and you leave a negative, they do the same just to get back at you. The one time I left a negative, they did the same and I haven't left negative feedback since. You can't win either way. What's interesting about the neutral and negative feedback is that they get the last word on yours and you get the last word on theirs. Which stinks because if I'm selling something, the potential bidder will look at my feedback and see him having the last word. In my case, I'm 100% right so the guy looks like a jackass when you compare both feedback comments. But if you just look at mine it seems like one of us are lying. It would be nice to be able to post pictures and longer explanations to your own feedback when you get neutral or negative feedback. A one line answer is not enough to explain yourself sometimes. But that won't keep me from leaving neutral or negative feedback. If these people deserve it, they'll get it, because I'm 100% honest and I know that the odds are in my favor. People might see the rare neutral or negative over time, but there will be a vast amount of positives to compensate. And it would be pretty stupid to base their trust in me on those rare cases alone.
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Post by 10incher on Aug 31, 2005 8:55:29 GMT -6
Thats why you feedback snipe if you have to leave a negative (leave it on day 89 & 23rd hour from when the transaction was made).
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Post by THE KNOCK-OFF MESSIAH on Sept 3, 2005 21:02:41 GMT -6
hell yeah. i always snipe in my negs too many bastards out to get me. and id like to keep my 100% ;D
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Post by 10incher on Sept 7, 2005 14:16:28 GMT -6
It happens yet again, just got my G1 Transformers Snapdragon that was listed as complete, but was missing one of the top fins. I guess well see if the seller can find it or re-inburse me to buy the part somewhere else.
Probably half of the Transformers I bought off Ebay in the last 6 months arrived broken or missing parts. It is really getting annoying.
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Post by 10incher on Sept 14, 2005 13:43:38 GMT -6
Yet again another dud auction. I have been waiting for a month for a lot of Chuck Norris accessories I bought from a seller for $1.99. The bonus was, it had an Eternia gold bow in the lot. He ignored all my emails until I finally said I would file with Paypal to get my $$ back. He emails me back right away and refunds my $$. He said it just came back to him in the mail a few days ago so he refunded me. How lame, I really wanted those weapons! I forsee a feedback snipe in the future , we'll see.
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Post by catgut on Sept 15, 2005 13:25:50 GMT -6
Could you not get onto ebay about this . i mean you did pay your money , and he still has the gear . if it was what hes says (redeliverd ,yer we belive that ....not!!!) ,why didnt he re(er deliver)deliver now hes got the stuff with him ,instead of a refund?.
i have a question for you all in the usa and canada .
whats the diffrence between them with shipping?. why do you get quoted diffrent prices for p+p for shipping from the uk ?.
i ask this as i went to the local post office and got a price for an item to be sent to the usa ,canada and hong kong ...guess what ,all 3 prices were the same for flat shipping (no letter) ,and air sure ? whats the diffrence ,have i been quoted wrong (bare in mind the lass at the counters been there doing this for years )?
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Post by 10incher on Sept 15, 2005 13:48:52 GMT -6
The seller said he remebered finding the piece after and just slipping it inside the box (not with the figure in the ziplock baggie). If he did that, it fell out for sure as a few sections of tape on the box were seperated leaving a gap for it to fall through.
Shipping from Canada to the USA is usually more expensive than shipping from USA to Canada. Any overseas country shipping to either one should cost the same though. Hope that makes sense.
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Post by catgut on Sept 15, 2005 14:26:35 GMT -6
arr i see so its the shipping from canada to usa/usa to canada which is the biggest problem?. i thought it was from the uk which people were finding it diffrent , if you dont mind the waiting and shipping "small package,no letter" its realy not that much ,only thing is is if its a big/heavy item ,thats when it starts to cost more (i know it might sound daft ,but if you can split the waight some times its cheaper in sending "
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Post by 10incher on Sept 29, 2005 10:44:22 GMT -6
So in the last 2 months out of 16 auctions I won and received (or should have received by now) I had something go wrong with 5 of them. - 3 auctions never arrived after 1 month or more (2 have refunded my money, but I would have prefered the items) - 2 auctions missing a figure accessory I am sure I was grossly overcharged on shipping on at least 2 of them as well. That is only a 69% success rate. It really pisses me off
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Post by THE KNOCK-OFF MESSIAH on Sept 29, 2005 15:13:39 GMT -6
i wish i could say that my transactions have gone better. but i have a worse success rate
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Post by TheWatcher on Sept 30, 2005 22:23:38 GMT -6
Hello, don't post much so I figure I will try to post more, lol. I tend not to really ebay much myself and that's with 300+ positives under my belt. People charging crazy shipping prices annoy me but I find that items or toys that tend to go for way more then they are actually worth really annoy me. I know they are collectible toys but I also know that after you take off the collectible part, they are still toys. Sometimes I just can't justify paying $100 for 1 or 2 action figures. Many ebayers seem to either be willing to pay that much like with MOTU or are just scalpers shilling their own auctions. Shill bidding seems to be a big problem for me on ebay I guess. You know they are doing ti when that mysterios bidder with 0 or 1 feedback usually from the very same person that they are bidding on in the 1st place comes on and raises that auctions way up. But what can ya do?
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Oct 14, 2005 15:51:58 GMT -6
Well, you can do some research for one. Find out what the ballpark figure is on what you are looking at. I love G1 Transformers, and would love to collect them, but they are wayyy to expensive for me to justify. To *me* they are not worth it. But that doesn't mean those auctions aren't going for a proper amount. Supply and demand always sifts out what's right. But what are you seeing that is going for way to much all of the time? I see some people pricing things at crazy high prices, but those auctions most always end with no bids. Others that bid very high when I know for a fact I can get that later for cheaper are only screwing themselves with inexperience. And I have no problem waiting for that next auction. If you have a problem with shills, then don't bid on the auction. Tell the guy running it that you are ignoring it because it looks fishy. I personally don't people with a total of 0 feedback to bid on my collectible or expensive auctions. They need to build up trust. I also snipe my auctions so shilling is pretty much defeated. With sniping, you're in control of what you are paying. You can't get pissed when you set a max. bid and someone comes and pushes you right to the limit of it. For shipping, just demand they lower an obvious inflated price or just ignore it. They'll most always lose out on it and you'll see it again in the future. Doing all of these things makes my eBay experience just fine.
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Post by TheWatcher on Oct 16, 2005 20:04:43 GMT -6
Sorry for the late response, lol. I really need to frequent the boards more often.
Hey man, how do ya know I don't do my research. I have been collecting action figures for about 10 years and have been on ebay a long time also. Frankly, Sometimes that what bugs me about ebay auctions is that the price of figures is inflated by between 10-20% of their actual worth or sometimes more, especially newer toylines. I collect many lines but I find this to be true with vintage MOTU especially or any newer toyline line like Marvel Legends, or star wars or chase figure (anything considered hot). I don't really think the problem is so much inexperienced or new collectors or even scalpers. I feel the real problem is with impatient collectors who have to have it now and will pay anything to get it. I can't count how many times I have seen a new marvel legends figure or a new star wars figure being bidded up to 2-3 times it's normal retail value. Even many older toylines like MOTU, Blackstar, LWOW, etc have this happen although it can be understood since this stuff is not as common as the newer stuff.
As for shilling, I have bidded on auctions where no one bid all week then suddenly someone pops up with a 0 or under 10 feedback and bids me up to my max and then stops. The fishy part is when most or all of their feedback came from the seller, sometimes for the same item. When that happens I always ask to have my bid canceled. Recently I started sniping because yeah it does make things easier. Paul~
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Oct 16, 2005 21:26:31 GMT -6
Sorry for the late response, lol. I really need to frequent the boards more often. Hey man, how do ya know I don't do my research. I have been collecting action figures for about 10 years and have been on ebay a long time also. Frankly............ I didn't mean to imply that you are doing something wrong. Your post said you stopped using eBay for the most part, gave reasons, and then said "but what can you do?". I was merely saying what you can do to combat the foolishness that you described, and described again this post. What I'm saying is that there's no reason to stay away from eBay because of shills, idiots, or people with more money than sense. Because eventually you'll find the vast majority, maybe even all of what you're looking for, at a later date when everyone else is weeded out. However I will debate some of what you just said. The actual worth is really nothing concrete. I know price guides and the long time collectors at large have an idea of what something is worth to us, but if a thousand people want to pay double than what we all feel it's collectible value it as toy collectors, well then, tough for us. The current worth is now double. At least we have the insight to realize inflated auctions due to stupidity or a non-collector's intense desire will die out pretty quickly. So instead of getting annoyed and possibly staying away from eBay, I would suggest you use the superior knowledge of collecting to wait them out and not sweat it. I remember laughing my ass off at POTF2 and EP1 Star Wars figures going for 3-6 times the amount at retail. And these were figures fresh off the boat that have yet to hit store shelves. So yes they were rare, but they had a 100% chance of showing up in your local TRU. So the idiots got to feast the scalpers and have a party, while most of us just sat back and shopped locally or hit eBay a few months (or more) later when things settled. As to your shilling story, that's why I said in my previous post that you don't have to suffer from that with sniping on most occassions. 9 times out of 10, when I place my max. bid w/ 20 sec. left, I win the auction or I battle it out with legit bidders. With that said, it is good to see you've started sniping. You will definitely enjoy eBay a lot more.
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Post by TheWatcher on Oct 17, 2005 18:31:50 GMT -6
Lol, hey man hope you didn't think my post was in any sort of aggression to your last post, I was actually just having some light hearted jabbing at ya by saying how didn't ya know I did my homework, but it's so darn hard to convey humor with just simple words. I still do use ebay quite a bit and if I have stayed away it's mainly due to lack of money now a days. I gotta disagree with ya on the point about value. A toy is only really worth what someone is willing to pay but overall most figures have a general common value even on ebay. A price a figure consistenly gets determines a sort of general value. Some ebay idiot may come along and pay double but unless that becomes the general trend, a figures price would still not be affected by that. A person may pay double but then the double value would only really apply to just that individual occurrance. I'd really like to continue this debate so if ya get a chance email me at auctionwatcher95@aol.com sometime. I love to argue err...I mean debate, lol. See ya Later Paul`
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Post by 10incher on Oct 18, 2005 9:18:08 GMT -6
A toy is only really worth what someone is willing to pay but overall most figures have a general common value even on ebay. A price a figure consistenly gets determines a sort of general value. Some ebay idiot may come along and pay double but unless that becomes the general trend, a figures price would still not be affected by that. A person may pay double but then the double value would only really apply to just that individual occurrance. I tend to agree, condition is also a factor when somebody pays double for a figure on Ebay. I have seen stuff that was recently removed from a damaged card go for alot more than the norm.
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Oct 18, 2005 19:40:17 GMT -6
Lol, hey man hope you didn't think my post was in any sort of aggression to your last post, I was just making sure you didn't take me the wrong way either. As dumb as they are sometimes, I tend to use smileys a lot to show I'm joking or not serious. Sometimes they work for me. I gotta disagree with ya on the point about value. A toy is only really worth what someone is willing to pay but overall most figures have a general common value even on ebay. A price a figure consistenly gets determines a sort of general value. Oh yeah I totally agree. In my previous post I mentioned that we all, as collectors, have a general idea of the worth of an item. I'm just saying that in reality that worth is not concrete, and that sometimes it's not just a single or rare instance. Case in point was those POTF2 figs I mentioned. After the inital craze, which lasted for a while when new waves hit, the more generally accepted worth of the items started to hold true.
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