Transformers G1 variants

[tinkerbeee]

Hello. I purchased a collection recently which had 2 strange variations I have never come across and I wondered if anyone had any information about them. Its not very often I see something I have never seen before with Gen1 Transformers so I thought they were pretty cool.

First up is a Gen1 Whirl. There was only one Whirl in the collection yet I have 2 complete sets of accessories, one in black and one in dark grey. Now it could easily be a figure got lost but I have never seen the dark grey accessories before and I was wondering if anyone had ever come across them before and what their origin is.

The Megatron is even stranger. It had a complete set of accessories but the silencer section is not made of 2 seperate pieces, it is one solid molded piece. Again I was wondering what the deal with this oddity is. Thanks in advance for any help.

[figurecollector]

is it possible that they are repros?

[tfnut]

Doubtful that they'd be repro's as those aren't pieces in especially high demand.
Are you saying the long silencer part and the connector are fused together? Is there a seam?

The dark grey Whirl pieces are most likely from Takatoku's Pre-Transformer, "Ovelon Gazette" or a knock-off thereof. I'd need to see pics to be sure (and I'd be interested in them, if you don't want them)

[tinkerbeee]

The dark grey pieces are definately from the Ovelon Gazette "blue Whirl". The long silencer and connector are fused together, no seam.