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Post by spockoda on Apr 23, 2015 17:37:15 GMT -6
I mostly agree. I have noticed the size of the heads being mentioned multiple times at other forums. I like to believe a more accurate Star Trek line could happen someday for the 3.75"-4" scale. Though, that only matters if you are partial to that scale (like I am). For most people, the 4.5" playmates line is the way to go. I am still watching the Reaction line in hopes that something cool will come along . All these limited articulation lines, which some do look decent, is a further reminder to me personally of how far this hobby has fallen. It had gotten to a point in the 90's where most companies(outside of Hasbro)made figures with at least nine points if not more. I feel like what happened to the sports card market and to a large extent the comic book market finally got to the action figure aisle.
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Post by spockoda on May 23, 2015 20:17:30 GMT -6
I saw the Star Trek ReAction figures in person for the first time today. This first wave didn't get my pulse racing but the likenesses of Spock and Sulu were passable. McCoy got the worst end of that one in my opinion. Someone had already "lifted" a tricorder accessory from one of the McCoy figures they had there. I did buy the Spock and Sulu, will think on the others. If I know me and Trek, I will probably end up collecting these since Trek has never had the quantity of figures made that Star Wars and other things have. The store I went to did have quite a few ReAction figures on the pegs although it looked like they had just gotten in some new ones. From Buffy The Vampire Slayer, I do like the creepiness of "The Gentleman" character.
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on May 24, 2015 9:41:33 GMT -6
I mostly agree. I have noticed the size of the heads being mentioned multiple times at other forums. I like to believe a more accurate Star Trek line could happen someday for the 3.75"-4" scale. Though, that only matters if you are partial to that scale (like I am). For most people, the 4.5" playmates line is the way to go. I am still watching the Reaction line in hopes that something cool will come along . All these limited articulation lines, which some do look decent, is a further reminder to me personally of how far this hobby has fallen. It had gotten to a point in the 90's where most companies(outside of Hasbro)made figures with at least nine points if not more. I feel like what happened to the sports card market and to a large extent the comic book market finally got to the action figure aisle. I think the articulation now tends to be crazy. If you look at Figma and Revoltech figures, the articulation is plentiful, but you have all these fugly lines breaking up the figures. Then you have Marvel Legends and NECA figures which aren't nearly as expensive but have QC issues like joints breaking right out of the package, and swapping out the alternate body parts can be a harrowing experience. Then there's just really weird articulation choices that hark back to the old McFarlane movie figures where you get basically a pre-posed statue that has some oddball poa and your figure only looks natural in one position... can't believe some companies are still doing this. I'm leaning towards not liking the ReAction figures. I get the appeal of having retro collectible figures of properties that might not otherwise have toys of any sort made, but it feels like they were rushed out on the cheap. The likenesses not being remotely accurate is one thing that might have been somewhat forgivable if they didn't have such ghastly proportions. I mean, Kenner didn't exactly get dead-on likenesses of every Star Wars character, but at least the bodies looked human.
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Post by spockoda on May 24, 2015 13:19:33 GMT -6
I hear you Thor. I personally feel like 25 poa for a 3.75" figure like Hasbro does on the superhero figures is going too far. To me somewhere between 12-16 poa for basically any scale of action figure would make me happy. I read on a forum where somebody said they glue their figures to make them more rigid because they don't care for a lot of articulation. That seems a tad odd but suit yourself I suppose. I will probably buy the ReAction Trek figures for the sake of Trek but overall I am not real big on this company and how they make these myself. They are getting all these properties with the chance to do something great and they go the cheapo route. I think their product does sell a little bit but a lot of it seems to be hanging around as well.
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on May 24, 2015 14:59:35 GMT -6
I think they are just reacting to what people seem to want. I never read a blog or an action figure review complaining about too much articulation. To me, depends somewhat on the character. You're going to want a lot of articulation on Spiderman or Daredevil so you can put them in real dynamic athletic poses, while Punisher can pretty much stand around looking badass. At the 3.75 scale though, I would have to agree 25 poa is absurd. Seems like they could keep the cost down by cutting all that articulation.
Also not a fan of the double joints on figures that seems to have become a thing in the past few years across many companies. Guess it's not as bad if the joints are hidden with elbow and knee pads/armor, but usually it ends up standing out to me.
I think ReAction will do quite well, and judging by all the licenses they've got since they first came out, I'm guessing the line already has done well. They are hitting a market that's not quite as niche as hardcore action figure collectors--the casual nerd who just wants a couple of their favorite characters at a price point they can live with (which imho is still too much for what they are) to stick at their desk or whatever. That seems to be what Funko excels at. Most of their stuff is too cutesy-poo or fake kitsch for my liking, if you get what I mean.
I'm pretty sure scalpers thought they were going to buy up all the desirable ReAction figures and make a killing off them--that's probably part of the reason why they seem to be everywhere with no real hard to find figures.
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Post by spockoda on May 24, 2015 15:11:42 GMT -6
I think they are just reacting to what people seem to want. I never read a blog or an action figure review complaining about too much articulation. To me, depends somewhat on the character. You're going to want a lot of articulation on Spiderman or Daredevil so you can put them in real dynamic athletic poses, while Punisher can pretty much stand around looking badass. At the 3.75 scale though, I would have to agree 25 poa is absurd. Seems like they could keep the cost down by cutting all that articulation. Also not a fan of the double joints on figures that seems to have become a thing in the past few years across many companies. Guess it's not as bad if the joints are hidden with elbow and knee pads/armor, but usually it ends up standing out to me. I think ReAction will do quite well, and judging by all the licenses they've got since they first came out, I'm guessing the line already has done well. They are hitting a market that's not quite as niche as hardcore action figure collectors--the casual nerd who just wants a couple of their favorite characters at a price point they can live with (which imho is still too much for what they are) to stick at their desk or whatever. That seems to be what Funko excels at. Most of their stuff is too cutesy-poo or fake kitsch for my liking, if you get what I mean. I'm pretty sure scalpers thought they were going to buy up all the desirable ReAction figures and make a killing off them--that's probably part of the reason why they seem to be everywhere with no real hard to find figures. You gave me some food for thought. Just like a mobile made to hang over a crib isn't really made to be marketed for adults perhaps some of my frustration stems from the fact that the ReAction figures' audience is more Joe Average than your more "serious" collectors. Good point.
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Post by waywardmonk on May 31, 2015 20:15:50 GMT -6
I saw the Star Trek ReAction figures in person for the first time today. This first wave didn't get my pulse racing but the likenesses of Spock and Sulu were passable. McCoy got the worst end of that one in my opinion. Someone had already "lifted" a tricorder accessory from one of the McCoy figures they had there. I did buy the Spock and Sulu, will think on the others. If I know me and Trek, I will probably end up collecting these since Trek has never had the quantity of figures made that Star Wars and other things have. The store I went to did have quite a few ReAction figures on the pegs although it looked like they had just gotten in some new ones. From Buffy The Vampire Slayer, I do like the creepiness of "The Gentleman" character. I agree Spock & Sulu were passable, and I almost picked up a Spock but got annoyed he only came with a tricorder while Sulu came with a phaser. I'm sure I'll still pick a Spock up eventually, but I'm in no hurry. Just found pics of series 2. Kirk looks horrible, but Gorn & Vina look good. If they look that good in person I'll probably pick them up. Inspired by another post, I just googled Fifth Element figures to see if anyone made any I missed over the last few years and was surprised to see ReAction just came out with some. While searching those, I saw a bunch of new lines they're coming out with. Seems like they've established a market. Give me 4-6 points of articulation and I'm fine. For me, sculpts and accessories are more important. Complicated poses and floppy figures make me cry
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on May 31, 2015 21:15:29 GMT -6
Aliens & creatures are imo easier to do, just in general. You'd really have to screw up something like a Gorn to make it look anything beyond cheesy good because that's what it looks like at its best! And he'll still be recognizable. 90% of these figures are only recognizable because they're wearing costumes. You take the graphic off Jack Burton's shirt and who is he supposed to be??
Ok, yes, it is KINDA COOL that they made Fifth Element, Firefly, and Big Trouble in Little China action figures this many years later.
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Post by kylefromdirtnapp on Jun 14, 2015 21:04:30 GMT -6
Did Karate Kid just come out or has it been a while?
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Post by spockoda on Jun 14, 2015 21:51:21 GMT -6
I have only seen the Karate Kid figures out the past few weeks.
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Post by kylefromdirtnapp on Jun 20, 2015 11:50:53 GMT -6
They look killer. I picked up a Rocketeer and an Alien Ash at a Wal-Mart on clearance for $5 each. I asked a dude where they usually are, and he said he only ever saw them in the clearance isle! I need 4 of those Karate Kids and all the Big Troubles. So cool.
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Post by spockoda on Jun 20, 2015 21:23:04 GMT -6
I was at a Barnes And Noble bookstore today that has a cardboard display of ReAction figures that has been pretty well thinned out from previously recent trips to this same store so they ARE selling. I wonder if they are still planning on releasing figures from Dark Crystal.
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Post by defzombie on Jun 24, 2015 16:43:17 GMT -6
I have an applause Rocketeer, but I would love something like a ReAction one.
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Post by spockoda on Jun 24, 2015 17:11:55 GMT -6
I have an applause Rocketeer, but I would love something like a ReAction one. Funko recently released a Legacy Rocketeer besides the 3.75" ReAction ones.
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Post by defzombie on Jun 24, 2015 17:13:09 GMT -6
Holy crap that one is SO awesome!
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on Jul 2, 2015 18:54:34 GMT -6
I have an applause Rocketeer, but I would love something like a ReAction one. Funko recently released a Legacy Rocketeer besides the 3.75" ReAction ones. Pretty good! I hope they do this with some of their other licenses,
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Post by themasterturtle on Jun 3, 2016 10:53:15 GMT -6
I enjoy seeing these on the shelves but when I can get screen accurate interpretations of most the characters I want immortalized in plastic it's hard for me to want these. I appreciate the vintage style though
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on Jun 9, 2016 16:34:29 GMT -6
I enjoy seeing these on the shelves but when I can get screen accurate interpretations of most the characters I want immortalized in plastic it's hard for me to want these. I appreciate the vintage style though I feel you. If this was before the time when there was action figures of everything in every price range they might be more tempting. I do think the Gremlins are kinda cool and might pick up a couple down the line but I would rather pay more and get something I am really into than this stuff which seems like the adult equivalent of something you'd nag your mom to buy you at the drugstore to tide you over. When I look at like the 3.75 MOTU figures that Super 7 puts out I wonder what exactly the point is. You could probably score MOTUC figures at their price plus the shipping. And then their Alien egg chamber would be kinda nifty except that it's $90 for a footlong plastic tray with a printed piece of carboard behind it. That kinda stuff strikes me as desk toys for nerds with too much money. @spockoda Have you seen the Mezco One:12 Star Trek figs? I am personally gonna pass on them because I think the line in general is going to break me, but they look fantastic.
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on Jul 2, 2016 1:53:29 GMT -6
Kinda feelin the Dark Crystal figs. Don't know if I care to waste casholas on 'em, but the SDCC Landstrider set looks good.
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on Jul 30, 2016 21:48:34 GMT -6
I guess Funko and Super7 have parted ways? They just released the second series of MOTU Reaction figs, the Dark Crystal one above, the Alien Day Japanese package spacesuit set and the carrying case with the GITD Alien, and another series called The Worst which I have only seen the unpainted SDCC exclusive figures. I'm kinda interested in all of these but the prices are ridiculous, and also I could easily wait until the prices on the SDCC exclusives come down. Funko doesn't seem to be involved in any of these, which is a shame because with no retail presence you're only going to get these at Super7's jacked up prices. Shame, because I would get into some of this stuff at the right price point. The MOTU second wave seems kinda blah. Tri-Klops is ok and Trapjaw is too, I guess. The first wave was better imho. The Worst seems kinda interesting--newly made up supervillains and monsters. I'll gladly wait till they come out with painted versions though, that is if they ever come down in price.
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Post by ucsf on Aug 18, 2016 7:27:08 GMT -6
I guess Funko and Super7 have parted ways? They just released the second series of MOTU Reaction figs, the Dark Crystal one above, the Alien Day Japanese package spacesuit set and the carrying case with the GITD Alien, and another series called The Worst which I have only seen the unpainted SDCC exclusive figures. I'm kinda interested in all of these but the prices are ridiculous, and also I could easily wait until the prices on the SDCC exclusives come down. Funko doesn't seem to be involved in any of these, which is a shame because with no retail presence you're only going to get these at Super7's jacked up prices. Shame, because I would get into some of this stuff at the right price point. The MOTU second wave seems kinda blah. Tri-Klops is ok and Trapjaw is too, I guess. The first wave was better imho. The Worst seems kinda interesting--newly made up supervillains and monsters. I'll gladly wait till they come out with painted versions though, that is if they ever come down in price. Well, thank you for the link. It's strange I haven't find any news about The Worst on Toyark and it went under my radar. Those look like interesting. I love old horror and monster movies and these just catch that strange and sometimes cheesy feeling. Although the price point is still high. It may be worth it if you're a MOC collector. I might try to get the cardbacks which are really fine stuff.
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Post by spockoda on Aug 18, 2016 20:25:13 GMT -6
I enjoy seeing these on the shelves but when I can get screen accurate interpretations of most the characters I want immortalized in plastic it's hard for me to want these. I appreciate the vintage style though I feel you. If this was before the time when there was action figures of everything in every price range they might be more tempting. I do think the Gremlins are kinda cool and might pick up a couple down the line but I would rather pay more and get something I am really into than this stuff which seems like the adult equivalent of something you'd nag your mom to buy you at the drugstore to tide you over. When I look at like the 3.75 MOTU figures that Super 7 puts out I wonder what exactly the point is. You could probably score MOTUC figures at their price plus the shipping. And then their Alien egg chamber would be kinda nifty except that it's $90 for a footlong plastic tray with a printed piece of carboard behind it. That kinda stuff strikes me as desk toys for nerds with too much money. @spockoda Have you seen the Mezco One:12 Star Trek figs? I am personally gonna pass on them because I think the line in general is going to break me, but they look fantastic. I don't collect much anymore so I don't visit the board often so I just saw this post. I would like to get those but at $70 a pop I can't do it right now. Spock is sold out so I imagine people will ask $100+ for him on the secondary market which will definitely put the line out of reach for me.
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on Aug 19, 2016 7:53:40 GMT -6
I guess Funko and Super7 have parted ways? They just released the second series of MOTU Reaction figs, the Dark Crystal one above, the Alien Day Japanese package spacesuit set and the carrying case with the GITD Alien, and another series called The Worst which I have only seen the unpainted SDCC exclusive figures. I'm kinda interested in all of these but the prices are ridiculous, and also I could easily wait until the prices on the SDCC exclusives come down. Funko doesn't seem to be involved in any of these, which is a shame because with no retail presence you're only going to get these at Super7's jacked up prices. Shame, because I would get into some of this stuff at the right price point. The MOTU second wave seems kinda blah. Tri-Klops is ok and Trapjaw is too, I guess. The first wave was better imho. The Worst seems kinda interesting--newly made up supervillains and monsters. I'll gladly wait till they come out with painted versions though, that is if they ever come down in price. Well, thank you for the link. It's strange I haven't find any news about The Worst on Toyark and it went under my radar. Those look like interesting. I love old horror and monster movies and these just catch that strange and sometimes cheesy feeling. Although the price point is still high. It may be worth it if you're a MOC collector. I might try to get the cardbacks which are really fine stuff. I feel you. If this was before the time when there was action figures of everything in every price range they might be more tempting. I do think the Gremlins are kinda cool and might pick up a couple down the line but I would rather pay more and get something I am really into than this stuff which seems like the adult equivalent of something you'd nag your mom to buy you at the drugstore to tide you over. When I look at like the 3.75 MOTU figures that Super 7 puts out I wonder what exactly the point is. You could probably score MOTUC figures at their price plus the shipping. And then their Alien egg chamber would be kinda nifty except that it's $90 for a footlong plastic tray with a printed piece of carboard behind it. That kinda stuff strikes me as desk toys for nerds with too much money. @spockoda Have you seen the Mezco One:12 Star Trek figs? I am personally gonna pass on them because I think the line in general is going to break me, but they look fantastic. I don't collect much anymore so I don't visit the board often so I just saw this post. I would like to get those but at $70 a pop I can't do it right now. Spock is sold out so I imagine people will ask $100+ for him on the secondary market which will definitely put the line out of reach for me. ucsf I am of the same mind. I like them, but even $15 apiece is steep for a 3.75 5 POA figure. And the quality of the sculpts is not even on par with vintage Star Wars or BSG figures. @spockoda It's possible, but the secondary market hasn't really risen sharply on the Judge Dredd or TDKR Batman figures and those have been sold out for months. Maybe the exclusive versions, but not the basic figures. I am somewhat more interested in their other licenses but they seem to be getting pricier with each new announcement. Batman and Dredd were I think about $65 when they came out, some others they've announced (just the retail versions, not exclusives, which are way way way overpriced) are running as high as $90. I think most modern 6" collectors are probably topping out around $50 which is about the average price of an S.H. Figuarts figure, and that has importation fees figured in. Mezco makes good products, but I think they're going to have to take a hard look at their pricing if they want the sales to bear out.
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Post by spockoda on Aug 19, 2016 20:24:58 GMT -6
They aren't bad figures and if they were no more than $50 each I might be able to give them a shot but stuff like this is why I can't collect much these days. These companies and sellers gouging on ebay price someone like me right out of the game.
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Post by rihia2k on Aug 21, 2016 6:38:17 GMT -6
'The Worst' figure line does look kinda' interesting. But does anyone else feel like it's a bit fresh to try moving an unpainted 'variant' series straight off the cuff? I mean don't your characters need to be strongly established before you try to sell them on silhouette alone?
On ReAction figures in general; I guess it's like there is at least one character/series for absolutely everyone, toy collectors or not. I initially thought I wanted Snake Plissken, but on seeing one I had to be honest with myself and it felt like it had about as much 'magic' as displaying an empty DVD case. To date I only have three ReAction figures, standing around loose in the living room - all Predators (translucent GID, open mouth and heat signature). Purely because they're diverse enough designs from each other and were 5 bucks each. ReAction feels now like the stuff that's gonna' come and go through my hands included in bulk lots for years to come.
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Post by justrygt on Aug 21, 2016 19:51:50 GMT -6
'The Worst' figure line does look kinda' interesting. But does anyone else feel like it's a bit fresh to try moving an unpainted 'variant' series straight off the cuff? -----Yes, but I was not surprised by this due to the reaction line origins from within a designer toy company .
ReAction feels now like the stuff that's gonna' come and go through my hands included in bulk lots for years to come. ------I am amazed at the huge mark down recently on many of the Reaction lines.
I am very impressed with Super 7 and Funko for doing so much in this scale in a short amount of time. They chose great licenses and brought long over-due characters to market. They have implemented the use of translucent plastics very well when possible. *see Predators and partially transported Star Trek*
I would have liked better likenesses and proportions on some characters. That problem has led me to be very selective as well. So I have sought out figures that have interesting or unique features for the 3.75" scale.
I really like the Alien movie figures. Kane with the chestburster is so awesome . I have all of the single carded Alien figures so far. I got a great deal on the T1000 terminator with a hole in his head. When has something like that ever been done before in this scale? I have one translucent Predator. I may get more if I see them at the flea market someday. And finally, I recently bought the GID Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little China . It was on sale at FYI music store in the mall. He does not glow bright but he still looks cool. I don't care if I never get many others from Pulp Fiction, Buffy, Big Trouble in Little China, Terminator, Escape from New York, Star Trek, Back to the Future. Those are all properties that I would have collected in greater amounts if the sculpting would have been better. I am happy to move on and sing praises for the great work on the new Dark Crystal line. It looks better than what would have been possible in the '80s yet true to the style of the canceled line.
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Post by rihia2k on Aug 22, 2016 6:32:18 GMT -6
I really like the Alien movie figures. Kane with the chestburster is so awesome . I have all of the single carded Alien figures so far. I got a great deal on the T1000 terminator with a hole in his head. When has something like that ever been done before in this scale? -- Yeah, that's where any appeal lies for me here, where the sculpt or design gets unique. I quite liked the 'frosted over' T-1000 I saw on the rack, pretty creative.
And finally, I recently bought the GID Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little China . It was on sale at FYI music store in the mall. He does not glow bright but he still looks cool. -- I've heard a few complaints about the GID glow-quality with the ReAction stuff. And considering that the GID additive supposedly deteriorates over time, I was surprised that my '79 Remco Frankenstein easily outglows my 2016 Predator.
I am happy to move on and sing praises for the great work on the new Dark Crystal line. It looks better than what would have been possible in the '80s yet true to the style of the canceled line. -- Dark Crystal has deserved some serious toy respect for a very long time now, I'll happily give Funko some kudos for this, it's been done in good taste.
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Post by Thor Laserpunch on Aug 22, 2016 13:25:38 GMT -6
rihia2k It was an interesting choice to do proto versions first, but unpainted figs are cheaper to do and they are con exclusives after all. Probably they're just testing the waters. I don't think I've seen any mention of them on forums or anywhere other than the lone blog post on their own site. I only found out about them after randomly finding them on ebay. I don't know the whole story, but there was an actual Hasbro line planned for Dark Crystal back in the day. Aren't these just a reused molds kinda deal like the Kenner Alien line? Now that Super7 is doing MOTUC and has a relationship with Mattel they could be opened to some actual decent distribution and more efficient avenues of production that would bring their prices down. Maybe. Gentle Giant does the Black Series and you still pay like $90 for a giant Luke Skywalker.
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Post by justrygt on Aug 22, 2016 22:16:12 GMT -6
I wouldn't put it past super7 to have sculpted Dark Crystal figures from scratch in an attempt to look like they were cast from original molds. They had to do that with at least one of the Alien figures that got the Reaction toy line started.
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Post by spockoda on Aug 23, 2016 17:37:39 GMT -6
I bought the Star Trek figures mainly because I'm a Trek collector, not because the sculpts were wonderful or anything. I also picked up the Universal Monsters because I collect them plus those figures were at least decent looking in my opinion and the first Aliens series which I sold off in my down sizing of my collection. The only other ReAction figure I bought was "The Gentleman" from the Buffy line because he was cool looking. My wife likes Dark Crystal and the one piece I have seen actually looks pretty good. On the topic of the Star Trek one:12 collective figures I actually found Spock and Sulu at around $40 each so I figured I better get those while I had the chance at that price. Another license they are going to do I might have interest in is Universal Monsters.
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