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Post by madmartigan37 on Jul 13, 2005 23:52:45 GMT -6
lately I have been thinking of buying repro weapons for my loose star wars figures to make them display better. I was wondering what your thoughts on repro weapons are? I never really liked them but due to financial reasons I may not be able to get real weapons for a while. I do not agree with selling these unless they are advertised as such and picking up a DT lightsaber set will probably be the only way that I will ever have these figures. I just cant justify spending that much money for a extra 5cm of lightsaber (no jokes please).
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Post by 10incher on Jul 14, 2005 1:12:35 GMT -6
I picked up a few repro weapons when they first started coming out. I kinda wish I hadn't, now I can't tell them from the original ones (I never really tried to hard though).
Now, I stay away from repro, but for somebody needing allot of weapons, it may be more affordable.
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Post by madmartigan37 on Jul 14, 2005 11:24:46 GMT -6
yep that is my reasoning. You can use the "drop test" to determine repro weapons. Compared to real weapons repro weapons make a "ping" noise when they strike a solid object like a table.
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Post by Hammer 0f The Gods on Jul 14, 2005 16:42:48 GMT -6
I have a few with my SW figures. I bought them to complete some of my figures and they seem to be pretty decent when compared to the originals. Just as long as you dont try to pass them as original when selling figures, they're ok by me.
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Post by 10incher on Jul 20, 2005 11:39:15 GMT -6
I was lucky enough to have most of the figures, all with their original weapons. Including the few figures I picked up in the 90s I probably have a half dozen or so repros in total mixed in with the originals. I think they are mostly Han & Stormtrooper blasters.
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Post by starhorse on Jul 28, 2005 13:13:45 GMT -6
How are repro weapons made? One thing with Dino Riders that is always getting lost are the cannon tips. They are essentially just smally red pieces of plastic that attach to the ends. If it was affordable to produce them, it would be a nice alternative to completing the sets with missing tips.
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Post by 10incher on Jul 28, 2005 13:48:12 GMT -6
Basically a mold of the weapon is made (out of what I have no clue... putty, clay?). Then the mold is filled with resin or some sort of material, left to harden then viola! I'm sure someone on these boards knows the process in greater detail.
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Post by vintagenate on Aug 29, 2005 14:37:02 GMT -6
I have no problem with reproduction weapons being used for display, but I hate when people sell them without stating that they're repros. I try to stick to original weapons only.
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Jun 2, 2011 21:47:32 GMT -6
I was about to post something about this. Glad I looked through the old posts. I'm getting back into vintage Star Wars with the goal of getting a complete set of loose figures to display and am running into the repro crap and came to a couple of conclusions regarding them: 1) Whether you care or not depends on why you collect. 2) Regardless of why you collect, it's probably impossible to guarantee you have original and not repro For #1, basically my goal in toy collecting is for display and not investment. So my main desire for vintage SW is to get a nice looking figure with the the accessory so it's a complete visual. Now I'd love to get all original accessories, but I have to be realistic and understand eBay is my main method of acquiring figures and there's no real 100% way to make sure I get original accessories. I know about the "drop test", but honestly, unless this can be confirmed on every weapon AND somehow confirm that no repro maker can get around it....I won't bid higher or say I have one or the other. What I have done is check Rebelscum for clarity on some items with unique accessories. Like Bespin & Jedi Luke's sabers. They specifically show how to tell if it's original or repro. So it increases my odds of getting a legit piece enough for me to be confident it's the real deal. It's obviously not like that for all of them, so I'll just go for the loose incomplete stuff and get some repros and be happy...or bid on complete auctions like they are with a repro and hope for the best.
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Post by josha on Jun 5, 2011 3:57:50 GMT -6
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Jun 5, 2011 19:20:37 GMT -6
Excellent link my man, thank you! While I personally think repros could be in endless variations, there's really only so much original vintage versions and those are easily confirmed as real (from carded, baggies, childhood, etc.. ) So that's a great place to compare against originals. If no match, but no match to their listed repro....odds are it's a repro. Good to know to adjust bidding accordingly
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Post by josha on Jun 5, 2011 19:32:53 GMT -6
They are constantly updating it. And I am sure they would be happy to learn of ANY new reproduction pieces being made for vintage SW. So if you do come across any that you still can't confirm as original or not, let the guys know so they can either help identify it with you or add it to their database if it is indeed a new piece.
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Post by rawlin on Jul 15, 2011 17:57:15 GMT -6
I make these, pretty cool ones, thought it could be fun to see. No it's not a photoshop, the photo is taken in total darkness with 8sec shutter time, they glow good but not like a nuclear meltdown. I'm not really fund of repros that are hard to identify, apart from that I have nothing against it. It's just very annoying to sit for hours trying to make out if real deal or not. I believe a dot on the handle or something would be a good solution, I'm currently making a mold for the kenner blaster but I need to make it easy to spot that it's a repro and hard to see when on the figure on display. I figured the gun handle was the best place.
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Post by 80s Action Figures on Jul 17, 2011 12:57:56 GMT -6
Woot thats the coolest thing I have seen in a long while!!!
Got any pictures of the moulds and how you make it?
Can you make me some G.I.Joe Bats accessories!!! ;D
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Post by rawlin on Jul 17, 2011 14:54:43 GMT -6
Woot thats the coolest thing I have seen in a long while!!! Got any pictures of the moulds and how you make it? Can you make me some G.I.Joe Bats accessories!!! ;D I dunno if I wish to tell how to make these :P I've worked a lot on them and I plan to in the near future be able to sell these in my shop. But here are some development photos with the latest mold. It's just a basic silicon mold. I hope this doesn't break any rules. The mold, probably the fifth mold. The start, the earliest version Version 2.5 The newest version I've tried many different colors, including the same as the originals but it takes so much of the glow and makes them hard to identify. So so far they are the normal glow in the dark color, like scareglowish. The shape of the newest ones on some of them isn't perfect because the mold became bad on one side. I used to have a much stronger glow in the dark color, it was really cool but now they refuse to send it because of fire hazard on the planes >_< but this color gets the details better.
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Post by 80s Action Figures on Jul 17, 2011 21:30:22 GMT -6
WoW! Those are great!...I want one of each color please! JK Where did you pick up the kits? I wonder how it might work on more chunky items like the Bats accessories I would like to try. I think you would do really well with these. Especially if you can do some of the colors from the film! I know you can go to a jeweler and they can design a ring or something for you and they 'send' it away to have a mold made...you said your mold deteriorated over a few uses?
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Post by rawlin on Jul 18, 2011 2:05:51 GMT -6
I buy the silicone and other stuff in a specialized shop here in Sweden.
kinn.com
It's actually very expensive. There was no kit but you need a material to use for the weapons, color, hardener, silicone and probably more things.
Learning how isn't that easy. The small parts like these sabers are really hard. But it's fun. The mold can do 20-30 uses before a new one has to be made.
I do have a bunch of spares of them but just the normal slightly yellow/green color that glow green.
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Post by reviewthis on Jul 19, 2011 13:10:49 GMT -6
those sabers are off the hook, i love that shot of luke holding it (my new background on my iphone).
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Post by rawlin on Jul 19, 2011 14:08:55 GMT -6
those sabers are off the hook, i love that shot of luke holding it (my new background on my iphone). Your welcome to use it, it's nice that people like it I put a lot of effort into that picture and the sabers so I would appreciate if my call-sign is left on the picture and not removed.
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Post by rawlin on Jul 19, 2011 14:51:53 GMT -6
WoW! Those are great!...I want one of each color please! JK Where did you pick up the kits? I wonder how it might work on more chunky items like the Bats accessories I would like to try. I think you would do really well with these. Especially if you can do some of the colors from the film! I know you can go to a jeweler and they can design a ring or something for you and they 'send' it away to have a mold made...you said your mold deteriorated over a few uses? I was in a rush when I answered you and totally forgot to say thank you Rough stuff are easy to make, the bigger the easier. I don't have any plans of making any GI.Joe stuff and it's probably easier and cheaper to just buy original ones. The method I use isn't like a factory production, it's a rather high start cost and with failed attempts it becomes a pretty high sum per item even when you can make many. If you only need a few I wouldn't recommend this, unless you think it's fun.
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Post by 80s Action Figures on Jul 19, 2011 18:02:38 GMT -6
Yes I was thinking of just fooling around and doing it for fun. and well to help out some of my bats who need the accessories...
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Post by reviewthis on Jul 19, 2011 18:16:07 GMT -6
those sabers are off the hook, i love that shot of luke holding it (my new background on my iphone). Your welcome to use it, it's nice that people like it I put a lot of effort into that picture and the sabers so I would appreciate if my call-sign is left on the picture and not removed. your call sign is on it, once again; amazing job
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Post by rawlin on Jul 20, 2011 1:37:40 GMT -6
Yes I was thinking of just fooling around and doing it for fun. and well to help out some of my bats who need the accessories... If it's for fun then go for it. Think my first order that I got started with was on around 126dollar. Now I have bought maybe 5 orders for about the same sum each. It might be cheaper where you are though.
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Post by rawlin on Jul 20, 2011 1:39:16 GMT -6
Your welcome to use it, it's nice that people like it :) I put a lot of effort into that picture and the sabers so I would appreciate if my call-sign is left on the picture and not removed. your call sign is on it, once again; amazing job Thanks, I appreciate that :)
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Post by rihia2k on Jul 20, 2011 9:08:14 GMT -6
Wohoah! I can't believe Kenner never thought of this. Glow in dark saber - so simple but totally genius!!
Back to the subject of repros - there's a sink or float test with water right? If they float they're repro I think. (never bothered to try because I'll take a repro acc over a 'naked' fig anytime)
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Post by rawlin on Jul 20, 2011 16:01:14 GMT -6
Wohoah! I can't believe Kenner never thought of this. Glow in dark saber - so simple but totally genius!! Back to the subject of repros - there's a sink or float test with water right? If they float they're repro I think. (never bothered to try because I'll take a repro acc over a 'naked' fig anytime) That's what I thought of too, it was in the glow in the dark era but they just skipped it. About the repro float test, most repros sink, and most original float. Imperial Gunnery got pretty good info about it, and I think it was there the drop test and float test originally started. There are however items that should sink. Like Amanamans staff where the hard to see repro floats etc. Why they sink could be that most repros are made of resin, which sink like rock, but I am not sure. There are newer repros that does float. Made probably just to scam people and list as original, it's getting harder, and now with the 2010 release of Star Wars it's just silly, but at least those are made by Hasbro...
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Post by figuremod73 on Jan 15, 2012 20:27:22 GMT -6
Unless someone tries to sell repros as originals i have no problem with them. It can sometimes be much more affordable when completing a collection and just want to display. I actual wish more figures from the seventies and eighties had repro weapons and clothes.
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Post by rmg939495 on Mar 17, 2012 22:20:56 GMT -6
for someone on a budget its great. Love the glow in the dark sabers
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Post by rawlin on Mar 18, 2012 4:54:11 GMT -6
Unless someone tries to sell repros as originals i have no problem with them. It can sometimes be much more affordable when completing a collection and just want to display. I actual wish more figures from the seventies and eighties had repro weapons and clothes. The last vintage star wars collection I bought had over 100 repros in it, I'm not against repros if they do a easy way to tell the difference, but most are sadly focusing on scamming, the new repros coming out now are even passing float tests and it's getting real hard to tell a difference.
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Post by figuremod73 on Mar 18, 2012 7:15:17 GMT -6
Not suprising. It would be a easy buck for ripping someone off. They would ruin any good idea.
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