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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 12, 2012 15:04:35 GMT -6
I'd say dealing with an annoying seller at a flea market is worse because I actually have to interact with them, on Ebay I can just click the page away and find something else to buy. Like a seller who smokes in your face with no smile...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2012 18:36:24 GMT -6
I'd take that over someone overcharging something they don't even know what it is and being rude about haggling, as long as the toy doesn't have smoke damage
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Post by 10incher on Oct 13, 2012 7:47:31 GMT -6
I'd take that over someone overcharging something they don't even know what it is and being rude about haggling, as long as the toy doesn't have smoke damage I saw this happen this past summer to an old guy that I see garage saling all the time. The lady was pretty rude being stuck on her ridiculous price (don't remember her exact comments). He just put the item down (don't remember what it was) in front of her and walked away. Funny thing though, 2 ladies who were also at the sale started to call the guy rude for putting the item down and not back where he got it. I just shook my head and told the guy "I hear you brother". Had a similar incident amyself about a month ago where a lady wouldn't negotiate a penny for a boardgame that was waaaay overpriced. I just told her to keep it then.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 13, 2012 12:19:50 GMT -6
I'd take that over someone overcharging something they don't even know what it is and being rude about haggling, as long as the toy doesn't have smoke damage I saw this happen this past summer to an old guy that I see garage saling all the time. The lady was pretty rude being stuck on her ridiculous price (don't remember her exact comments). He just put the item down (don't remember what it was) in front of her and walked away. Funny thing though, 2 ladies who were also at the sale started to call the guy rude for putting the item down and not back where he got it. I just shook my head and told the guy "I hear you brother". Had a similar incident amyself about a month ago where a lady wouldn't negotiate a penny for a boardgame that was waaaay overpriced. I just told her to keep it then. That is the kind of thing that makes me feel ashamed to be a lady...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 19:44:56 GMT -6
I would have to go with yard sales personally cause I can never find jack shit at them, the prices are usually good but it's always mainstream stuff like joes, transformers etc.., at least eBay has great variety and if your patient you can find good deals on stuff you like via cheap buy it now or mislabeled auctions. I'm still waiting to find a rare or obscure figure at a yard sale but it seems like that day will never come.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 19, 2012 20:08:32 GMT -6
I'd say dealing with an annoying seller at a flea market is worse because I actually have to interact with them, on Ebay I can just click the page away and find something else to buy. You must look for a lot of toys to "find something else" when you're in front of a grail sold by a bad seller...
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Post by rihia2k on Oct 20, 2012 7:18:19 GMT -6
I'd say flea market greed is more annoying to me than e-bay greed. Online auctions are more suited to impulsive buyers with ready access to their entire bank account. Market stalls generally attract people with a 'bit' of cash in their pocket and a discerning eye for their own niche treasures. Too many stall holders are dreaming Richard Branson will show up in his jet with a blindfold on and clown-pants full of money.
As well as dirty, overpriced figures, the pressure from Market Sellers can be bad. I've witnessed a seller sweet talking some kid into a common broken playset, (like they were gifting it to 'em) then putting the parent on the spot right there... cruel. (nightmare game show, waste you're money or upset your child, you have twenty seconds to decide) Pressure selling sucks. Pressure selling second-hand crud sucks more.
Today at an antique centre's stall I saw; Galaxy Warrior Ygg. No hands = $15. Godzilla KO robot from 2006 = marked 'vintage'.
Online that would be dumb, in person it's just insulting.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 20, 2012 13:02:55 GMT -6
I'd say flea market greed is more annoying to me than e-bay greed. Online auctions are more suited to impulsive buyers with ready access to their entire bank account. Market stalls generally attract people with a 'bit' of cash in their pocket and a discerning eye for their own niche treasures. Too many stall holders are dreaming Richard Branson will show up in his jet with a blindfold on and clown-pants full of money. As well as dirty, overpriced figures, the pressure from Market Sellers can be bad. I've witnessed a seller sweet talking some kid into a common broken playset, (like they were gifting it to 'em) then putting the parent on the spot right there... cruel. (nightmare game show, waste you're money or upset your child, you have twenty seconds to decide) Pressure selling sucks. Pressure selling second-hand crud sucks more. Today at an antique centre's stall I saw; Galaxy Warrior Ygg. No hands = $15. Godzilla KO robot from 2006 = marked 'vintage'. Online that would be dumb, in person it's just insulting. Those are bad, but they are not any worse than the television advertising messages that show the products on a flashy background with loud noises and bright colors. Those are TRUE torturers for kids. The children who see those publicity messages think the product annonced will be just the coolest thing ever, while it's actually just a piece od cheap plastic that will break the minute they'll touch it or sugar-loaded candy that will deteriorate their teeth. Those are just as lame as the sweet talking market sellers who bury the flaws of a product with honey-filled words.
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Post by rihia2k on Oct 20, 2012 18:28:39 GMT -6
I'd say flea market greed is more annoying to me than e-bay greed. Online auctions are more suited to impulsive buyers with ready access to their entire bank account. Market stalls generally attract people with a 'bit' of cash in their pocket and a discerning eye for their own niche treasures. Too many stall holders are dreaming Richard Branson will show up in his jet with a blindfold on and clown-pants full of money. As well as dirty, overpriced figures, the pressure from Market Sellers can be bad. I've witnessed a seller sweet talking some kid into a common broken playset, (like they were gifting it to 'em) then putting the parent on the spot right there... cruel. (nightmare game show, waste you're money or upset your child, you have twenty seconds to decide) Pressure selling sucks. Pressure selling second-hand crud sucks more. Today at an antique centre's stall I saw; Galaxy Warrior Ygg. No hands = $15. Godzilla KO robot from 2006 = marked 'vintage'. Online that would be dumb, in person it's just insulting. Those are bad, but they are not any worse than the television advertising messages that show the products on a flashy background with loud noises and bright colors. Those are TRUE torturers for kids. The children who see those publicity messages think the product annonced will be just the coolest thing ever, while it's actually just a piece od cheap plastic that will break the minute they'll touch it or sugar-loaded candy that will deteriorate their teeth. Those are just as lame as the sweet talking market sellers who bury the flaws of a product with honey-filled words. Yeah, yer quite rite, bowhead. I shoulda' see "sucks too" rather than "sucks more". At least grubby dealers aren't big business wasting resources.
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Post by 3 3/4"collector on Oct 21, 2012 20:38:12 GMT -6
i almost never go to garage/yard sales and when i have i have never seen any toys i was remotely interested in. but generally the ones i have gone to the people just want the stuff gone and arent trying to get too much money. ebay cracks me up when i look for something and i see someone selling it for like $200 and right below that result are 5 other people selling the same thing for $20 and $8, i just dont comprehend not doing a quick search to see whats going on before you sell it. there have been things on ebay i have seen for literally years not selling and i start wondering how much the person has spent on fees for the thing.
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Post by den82 on Oct 22, 2012 4:59:18 GMT -6
There is a long running Flea Market out here on Long Island every Sunday that I've been going to for well over 10 years. It used to be great. Recently, it's gotten really sad. All the sellers want top dollar prices for absolute crap. Everything you find is broken, dirty, incomplete, etc.
There has always been an "Us Vs. Them" attitude among the sellers. But it seems they're combating the dealers these days by raising their prices sky high.
There are a lot of jerk-offs here on Long Island. I went to a recent swap meat and noticed a guy selling some old toys. I asked if he had any of the usual (GI Joe, He-Man, etc.). He told me he does, but "wouldn't bring it here" and he was a "big time player" in all that. We talked about local toy shows and I asked him if he was at the recent one. He said something along the lines of "If I never heard of it, it's not worth going to" and "if there is a new guy trying to start one, he 'aint' gonna last".
WTF? I've talked with and dealt with the guy who runs the one on LI and know he's no newcomer.
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Post by den82 on Oct 22, 2012 5:06:13 GMT -6
I've been collecting toys (again) for around only 3 years now and in that time frame, I've built up a pretty awesome collection.
The great thing about that is, I no longer have to cave in and pay stupid prices anymore and few things create that adrenaline rush now. So that means I can walk away easy now and tell a fool to keep it. I still have my eBay store and all, so losing a deal sucks. But since I have a lot of stuff in my own collection, I do not care as much.
eBay doesn't bother me. People who sell on eBay put their money where their mouth is. Unlike the slobs who tell you "it's going for___ on eBay" or "I'll just put it on eBay", when I know they are too stupid and lazy to do so.
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Post by moonchild666 on Oct 23, 2012 18:09:26 GMT -6
Yeah, people who just figure it's worth a ton because it's old, or just because it's a collectable toy (doesn't matter condition or completeness) is so annoying. I tend to stay long away from those types too. But I guess we'll never get totally rid of them.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 24, 2012 12:58:28 GMT -6
Yeah, people who just figure it's worth a ton because it's old, or just because it's a collectable toy (doesn't matter condition or completeness) is so annoying. I tend to stay long away from those types too. But I guess we'll never get totally rid of them. This happens on Ebay also. Five years ago, I could find Princess of Power figures in good condition for reasonnable prices. But today, every single She-Ra item on Ebay is worth a fortune, even if it's just a shield.
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Post by homeschoolman on Oct 27, 2012 20:33:25 GMT -6
Fortunately for me, there are little to no collectors but me in this one horse town. the flea market here has only one toy dealer but she was a hoarder back in the day and all she has are sweet figs with unbelievable prices!! for example, i went today and got bone age's t-rex mint complete in the box for 10 bucks. every week there's something new. i've become kinda spoiled. so ebay is definately more annoying to me.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Dec 8, 2012 13:41:54 GMT -6
Fortunately for me, there are little to no collectors but me in this one horse town. the flea market here has only one toy dealer but she was a hoarder back in the day and all she has are sweet figs with unbelievable prices!! for example, i went today and got bone age's t-rex mint complete in the box for 10 bucks. every week there's something new. i've become kinda spoiled. so ebay is definately more annoying to me. It seems you found a pearl among sellers!
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Post by teacherofmadness on Dec 12, 2012 8:58:44 GMT -6
I love yard sales, so it's easily ebay for me. Now that 75% of everything is buy it now with jacked up prices I have little use for it. Yard sales though, at least in the suburbs of Buffalo, NY can yield all kinds of nonsense for little money. The flea market dealers are pretty high priced and not worth dealing with, and many of the local dealer/collectors are nasty scumbags, but I still manage to pick up some good deals every summer.
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Post by funkyterrance on Jan 30, 2013 23:42:44 GMT -6
I'd say dealing with an annoying seller at a flea market is worse because I actually have to interact with them, on Ebay I can just click the page away and find something else to buy. Yeah but you can't strangle an ebay lister.
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Post by brcthrift on Jan 31, 2013 8:52:02 GMT -6
Since ebay is over the computer you only get your interpretation of the other party's tone. I try to look at communications, and listings in the best possible light.
Flea Market sellers are far worse. In the last two weeks I had two experiences with PITA sellers. One guy had a box of MOTUs. All 25 of the extremely common figures were shirtless, and there were about 5 weapons pack weapons. I start laying it all out to see what was in there, and the seller walks up and says "I know what these are worth, and I'm not taking less than 300." I put everything back in the box, and walked off.
I would have paid 40 bucks for the lot.
Last weekend a guy had a Empire Strikes Back lunch box and thermos. It had some rust, but it was good enough. I asked the seller what it costs. He says "You can have it for 25. I got it listed for 25 online."
That was a little high for the condition, so I askif he'd take 20. He takes the thing out of my hand. Places it down and says "You don't want it for 25 then it's 35 for you."
I think about it a little and decide 25 isn't that bad, so I send my wife over to get it. He tells her its 40 and that he's got it listed for 75 online.
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Post by 3 3/4"collector on Feb 9, 2013 14:53:43 GMT -6
i have fairly bad allergies and dont like being outside at all and i cannot stand the heat and humidity of summer so i dont even go to garage sales. i also dont haggle, its just not in my nature to argue and debate with people over something i would rather just leave it and move on. of course i have that same problem on ebay when i make an offer on something and they always send me a counter offer. i dont start out low balling what i offer is what i am willing to pay.
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Post by funkyterrance on Feb 9, 2013 20:14:20 GMT -6
Part of the reason I actually prefer garage sales and the like is because I LOVE haggling. I do it more for the fun than anything tbh. If I can shave a few bucks off or even over a hundred in some cases, this is just a bonus for me. I can sort of relate to brc's examples though they still made me cringe lol. I do have one flea market in the summer that I go to as often as I can and there are a few "regulars" who I just don't get a long with. One guy has some stuff that is not only very ordinary but insanely priced. Every once in a while he has something that catches my eye so like a fool I try again with the same result. I actually sometimes can't help laughing when he tells me the price, much to his chagrin.
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Post by rihia2k on Feb 9, 2013 22:55:13 GMT -6
Since ebay is over the computer you only get your interpretation of the other party's tone. I try to look at communications, and listings in the best possible light. Flea Market sellers are far worse. In the last two weeks I had two experiences with PITA sellers. One guy had a box of MOTUs. All 25 of the extremely common figures were shirtless, and there were about 5 weapons pack weapons. I start laying it all out to see what was in there, and the seller walks up and says "I know what these are worth, and I'm not taking less than 300." I put everything back in the box, and walked off. I would have paid 40 bucks for the lot. Last weekend a guy had a Empire Strikes Back lunch box and thermos. It had some rust, but it was good enough. I asked the seller what it costs. He says "You can have it for 25. I got it listed for 25 online." That was a little high for the condition, so I askif he'd take 20. He takes the thing out of my hand. Places it down and says "You don't want it for 25 then it's 35 for you." I think about it a little and decide 25 isn't that bad, so I send my wife over to get it. He tells her its 40 and that he's got it listed for 75 online. Woah. What. A. Scuzzbucket. Sexist too... aww, ladies dunno nothin' bout Star Wars or collectibles, better jack that price! I'm none too fond of the "have it listed on eBay for $x..." line either, it's irrelevant if you're face to face. Does that line actually work for these people??
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Post by Toy Box Hero on Feb 10, 2013 18:22:34 GMT -6
Part of the reason I actually prefer garage sales and the like is because I LOVE haggling. I do it more for the fun than anything tbh. If I can shave a few bucks off or even over a hundred in some cases, this is just a bonus for me. I know what you mean. %90 of yard/garage sales are just average people trying to make a few bucks off of stuff they don't want/need any more. I've found that most of them are ready to wheel and deal and are typically pleasant to deal with even if they aren't willing to budge. I've been ebaying for 9 years now and I can only think of one bad experience. With the feedback scores, the terms laid out in the ad, the anonimity and competition there to help keep prices downish, it's definitely the best way to go IMO. Ebay was a revelation to collecting because it cut out the middle man. As many of us seem to agree, flea markets are the worst. Jacked up prices, bad merchandise, rude sellers--and too many sellers who are selling stuff they know next to nothing about.
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Post by funkyterrance on Feb 10, 2013 18:30:06 GMT -6
Ebay was a revelation to collecting because it cut out the middle man. It's funny you mention this about ebay because I was thinking earlier today about how its starting to feel to me sort of like ebay is becoming the middle man. I get the impression that a lot of buyers on ebay these days are on there constantly, swooping in and buying things to either sell from their own place of business or to resell on ebay even. Not quite coming full circle since obviously a lot of collectors are buying strictly for themselves but there is certainly a lot more buying to resell nowadays I think?
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Post by Toy Box Hero on Feb 10, 2013 19:29:15 GMT -6
It's funny you mention this about ebay because I was thinking earlier today about how its starting to feel to me sort of like ebay is becoming the middle man. I get the impression that a lot of buyers on ebay these days are on there constantly, swooping in and buying things to either sell from their own place of business or to resell on ebay even. Not quite coming full circle since obviously a lot of collectors are buying strictly for themselves but there is certainly a lot more buying to resell nowadays I think?
Yeah I'm definitely seeing more of that my self; especially on lots. As a result you come across a lot more "BIN" auctions where the prices are jacked way, way up.
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Post by BoogDoc7 on Feb 11, 2013 5:30:39 GMT -6
Ebay was a revelation to collecting because it cut out the middle man. It's funny you mention this about ebay because I was thinking earlier today about how its starting to feel to me sort of like ebay is becoming the middle man. I get the impression that a lot of buyers on ebay these days are on there constantly, swooping in and buying things to either sell from their own place of business or to resell on ebay even. Not quite coming full circle since obviously a lot of collectors are buying strictly for themselves but there is certainly a lot more buying to resell nowadays I think? I do this at times, but not on auctions with high prices. More like finding some auctions where something is mismarked or too general or bad pictures or something. I'll properly label them and put them on ebay or bring them to a flea market, but the one I go to I know better than to try and sell too high - folks at the one here don't like paying much more than garage sale prices (other than the occasional collector who frequents there), and I give the guys who know a deal that benefits us both.
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Post by brcthrift on Feb 11, 2013 10:22:55 GMT -6
[ It's funny you mention this about ebay because I was thinking earlier today about how its starting to feel to me sort of like ebay is becoming the middle man. I get the impression that a lot of buyers on ebay these days are on there constantly, swooping in and buying things to either sell from their own place of business or to resell on ebay even. Not quite coming full circle since obviously a lot of collectors are buying strictly for themselves but there is certainly a lot more buying to resell nowadays I think? I have built my collection buying lots, keeping one or two pieces, and selling the rest for profit.
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Post by reynold1 on Feb 11, 2013 13:41:53 GMT -6
That's mainly how I've also built my collection too since it also helps give fuel to purchasing even more toys for my collection. It's a nice cycle which at times can be vicious especially on the wallet
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Post by Toy Box Hero on Feb 11, 2013 16:27:36 GMT -6
Lots can be a great way to kick start a collection for beginners. You save on shipping because you get several items in one order rather than piecemeal, you get a nice bit of momentum and you can then sell off what you don't want and re-invest that into your collection. But lots are also targeted by folks who have their own e-stores, so it increases the competition.
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Post by homeschoolman on Feb 26, 2013 18:12:08 GMT -6
I find that on Ebay and at yard sales the good deals are slim pickin's. If you have the time or opportunity you should see if there are any comic & toy conventions happening in your area. I try to attend all the conventions in my area because you can go there and meet local traders (google "comic and toy and look for ones in your area) and judge for yourself the good and bad and 9 times out of 10 they will gladly give you an email address or phone number for repeat business. I have met a couple really fair sellers/traders this way! SOME People that don't collect don't realize the condition and price go hand in hand they think that just because it's old it's gold and we collectors suffer! man, the closest traders are atleast an hour and an half from my house, i wish there were some rad dudes around here that would trade
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