jnorlund
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Post by jnorlund on Jul 20, 2013 11:01:32 GMT -6
I was reading about Madballs the other day, especially those that were made from the softer foam and them dissolving, etc. What toys can't stand the test of time from shoddy materials and really can't be collected because of this? I mainly mean mainstream toys rather than knock-offs (I mean come on, they're knock-offs). Obviously Gi Joes and anything with a rubber band will eventually breakdown but a lot of those can be replaced.
What lines had the cheapest materials that don't stand up to common household conditions?
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Post by kylefromdirtnapp on Jul 21, 2013 19:18:04 GMT -6
What were those toys that you could pull the arms and legs off then but them back together? I also remember seeing a carded AFA 95 graded Cy-Clone I think it was with a band that gave out, so the leg was just setting at the bottom of the bubble. Also, this:
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jnorlund
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Post by jnorlund on Jul 21, 2013 19:48:57 GMT -6
Manglors? Also I think Stretch Armstrongs had issues too.
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Post by kylefromdirtnapp on Jul 22, 2013 20:59:28 GMT -6
Yep, it was Manglors I was thinking of.
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Post by rawlin on Jul 23, 2013 1:57:41 GMT -6
Never heard of the gold plastic syndrom before. It must have something to do with the metal inside the plastic, maybe oxidizing.
Rubber toys are most likely doomed sooner or later unless cared for.
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Post by countzackula on Jul 25, 2013 6:04:19 GMT -6
I always hated anything with vacuumized metal plastic...I think any toy like this that starts to peel, flake, or "go white", just looks plain terrible.
I've never actually had any of my toys with gold plastic break yet. I know a few of my Beast Wars figures that I still have are potential victims of GPS! Come to think of it, since I haven't displayed 'em in a few years, they're probably reduced to dust inside their storage container! NOOOO!!!
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Post by 3 3/4"collector on Jul 26, 2013 10:39:52 GMT -6
i always refused to have anything to do with any kind of bendy figure because i dont trust the quality of that rubber and wire.
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Toy Box Hero
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Post by Toy Box Hero on Jul 30, 2013 7:35:34 GMT -6
I always hated anything with vacuumized metal plastic...I think any toy like this that starts to peel, flake, or "go white", just looks plain terrible. Agreed. I've run into this with everything from vintage Star Wars figures like C-3PO and the Death Star droid (whose limbs also tend to be much looser than their standard palstic counterparts) to Captain Power. I'm lucky in that the ones I have are in great shape, but it took me a long time to find ones that met my standards.
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Post by else3573 on Jul 31, 2013 8:17:36 GMT -6
Madballs head poppers have the little latch that holds the head on broken off quite often. I had it happen to 2 of mine, where the head kept popping off on the shelf and eventually the latch/tab thing broke.
Not a toy, but AD&D bubbles are notorious for yellowing.
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jamesmount
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Post by jamesmount on Dec 12, 2013 4:10:04 GMT -6
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Post by anna on Dec 12, 2013 10:12:52 GMT -6
Man I hate gold plastic the use of it wrecked my swtf Chewbacca even the replacement! (and then there's g2 slingshot and slog)
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Post by bowheadwhale on Dec 12, 2013 15:59:52 GMT -6
Masters Of the Universe: the rubber band joining their legs eventually dry out and break. My brother and I have a few leg-broken MOTU at home.
Oh! And I will add POP Crystal horses to the list: their colors fade so easily they eventually become "cream" (especially Sun Dancer)
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Post by 10incher on Dec 12, 2013 22:05:44 GMT -6
JLU figures. After a year or so allot of them get a white haze on the plastic. Hate to see what they look like after 10 years or more.
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Post by kylefromdirtnapp on Dec 25, 2013 10:19:08 GMT -6
Duh, Infaceables. Supernaturals and Centurions have a bad habit of getting their arms broken off as well in my experience.
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Post by rihia2k on Dec 27, 2013 2:11:00 GMT -6
Duh, Infaceables. Supernaturals and Centurions have a bad habit of getting their arms broken off as well in my experience. Uh Huh, hear you on the Centurions. They look so durable, and generally were in every other way, but the arms were almost like a tease of ball-jointedness to kids.
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Jan 6, 2014 3:19:48 GMT -6
Masters Of the Universe: the rubber band joining their legs eventually dry out and break. My brother and I have a few leg-broken MOTU at home. Do a Google search on how to repair MOTU figures. You can fix the internals of them. I've never done it and from a quick look at the process, it seems a lot more involved the 80s G.I. Joe repairs, but doable.
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Jan 6, 2014 3:23:51 GMT -6
I was reading about Madballs the other day, especially those that were made from the softer foam and them dissolving, etc. Whoa! What did you read about Madballs? I'm really curious to learn which individual Madballs or which series of Madballs had these issues. I'm not a big collector of them, but I do have a vintage Skull Face in my collection. It's been sitting directly in front of my keyboard for years and years. I mess with it (toss it up in the air) from time to time and the thing still looks the same as the day I bought it....brand new. The only change over time seems to be that the foam has become hard as a rock. Which is kinda cool in my opinion....it should help preserve it. From the stamp on the underside...1985. So 29 years so far and going strong.
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Post by figuremod73 on Jan 6, 2014 20:42:27 GMT -6
I've fixed a few legs on MOTU figures. Sometimes the rubber that you twist the screw thru is so rotten that it doesnt work. I have had some success with it though.
Add 1970s Super Joe to the list. Every package ive seen posted never has the hands on them.
Have you heard of some Star Wars vintage figures having sticky plastic? I wonder if certain enviroments break the plastic down.
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Post by WishItWas1984 on Jan 7, 2014 8:18:52 GMT -6
Have you heard of some Star Wars vintage figures having sticky plastic? I wonder if certain enviroments break the plastic down. I believe it has to do with some combination of plastic quality and exposure to various humidity levels, human contact and temperature levels. I have yet to see any scientific study done regarding it though. I doubt they would because of toy collecting, but I know museums are having it rough. See the posts in this thread: actionfiguresca.proboards.com/thread/12796/odd-topic-seal-plastic-collectiblePerhaps some mild soap and water can work on the stickyness. I think Goo Gone works awesome. And be careful. REGULAR GOO GONE. Not Goof Off or Goo Gone XTreme...those things will dissolve the plastic. Worked awesome on my Force FX Lightsaber grips and I've seen posts elsewhere on the net with great results on MOTU figs, and the paint remained ok. Thankfully it seems that we'll all be long dead before these things go past the tipping point and are just goo though.
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Post by waywardmonk on Jan 25, 2014 11:31:54 GMT -6
JLU figures. After a year or so allot of them get a white haze on the plastic. Hate to see what they look like after 10 years or more. Some of my loose Playmates Star Trek figures had this happen too. The white haze feels a little tacky. I've been able to just wipe it off and they still look fine though. It only happens to a few specific figures, so it must be an issue with the paint/plastic they used on those figures.
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Post by proteus on Feb 2, 2014 5:58:39 GMT -6
galaxy rangers- the guns weld themselves into the holsters infacables- faces disolve commander power- super joe- all joints just fall appart cyborg and muton- the coolest toys ever but if theyve been left in sunlight the plastic becomes so brittle you darent even move them
theres several toylines that are just impossible to find now - in any sort of condition- commander power being a prime example- lovely 10 inch super joes from the uk with punching action- but the limbs were jointed with kind of a rubbery hinge piece and they turn crystaline almost and the whole figure falls appart even inside the box- a shame.
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Post by proteus on Feb 2, 2014 6:37:28 GMT -6
ive also had sticky star wars syndrome- esp on the original han solo- sometimes the legs become sticky and even shrink so the figure will not stand.
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Post by proteus on Feb 2, 2014 6:58:56 GMT -6
Have you heard of some Star Wars vintage figures having sticky plastic? I wonder if certain enviroments break the plastic down. I believe it has to do with some combination of plastic quality and exposure to various humidity levels, human contact and temperature levels. I have yet to see any scientific study done regarding it though. I doubt they would because of toy collecting, but I know museums are having it rough. See the posts in this thread: actionfiguresca.proboards.com/thread/12796/odd-topic-seal-plastic-collectiblePerhaps some mild soap and water can work on the stickyness. I think Goo Gone works awesome. And be careful. REGULAR GOO GONE. Not Goof Off or Goo Gone XTreme...those things will dissolve the plastic. Worked awesome on my Force FX Lightsaber grips and I've seen posts elsewhere on the net with great results on MOTU figs, and the paint remained ok. Thankfully it seems that we'll all be long dead before these things go past the tipping point and are just goo though. theres a chemical that is added to plastic to make it more flexable- it is not actually molecularly bonded to the plastic and over time it kind of removes itself from the plastic- sometimes figures will get a sort of white frosting on the limbs- this is this chemical becoming seperated from the plastic- the more it loses the stiffer and more brittle the plastic becomes.this can be slowed by reducing the figures exposure to oxygen and sunlight.but you will never stop it- all plastic has a finite life even tho people wonder how to deal with plastic waste, it deteriorates over time you can slow it - but you cant stop it completely- but youd have to live a very long time befor your figure fell appart ;-)
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volleydan
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Post by volleydan on Feb 3, 2014 12:00:24 GMT -6
Several MOTU figures from the 80s also had problems with paint that just disappeared, and sticky plastic. My Roboto's feet went from shiny silver to red over the course of a couple years....and he was just standing on a shelf untouched that whole time. I've heard Two-Bad's paint is bad about fading as well.
Last time I re-arranged my MOTU shelves, I also noticed that at least a half dozen of them were so sticky that I felt like washing my hands after just moving them.
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Post by kylefromdirtnapp on Feb 3, 2014 12:41:40 GMT -6
I think with Roboto's boot you can just clean them up with soap and water and they come back to normal. Been a while, but I remember doing it. The "Sticky" washes off too, but will come back. Sounds like it's time to build a toy bunker. I'll have to only view them through night vision goggles.
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Post by justrygt on Feb 6, 2014 17:11:36 GMT -6
I bought my roboto new in the '80s. The silver color seemed to fade overnight around 2002. It was always stored in the a/c and out of sunlight . I was surprised to see the sudden fade because I never even handled the figure much as a kid. He stayed in a carry case with all the rest.
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Post by reynold1 on Feb 7, 2014 9:04:37 GMT -6
I'll vouch for being able to clean up Roboto and Two Bad's paint issues. I used rubbing alcohol however for it and it didn't seem to effect the paint at all (the original silver that is). The only difficult thing was getting into the nooks and crannies of both of the figures' boots.
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Post by rocklord74 on Feb 7, 2014 10:21:31 GMT -6
I used goo gone and warm water with a tooth brush and had no issue getting them back like new. It worked on the silver paint and the purple half of two bad.
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Post by rihia2k on Feb 7, 2014 12:41:06 GMT -6
I bought my roboto new in the '80s. The silver color seemed to fade overnight around 2002. It was always stored in the a/c and out of sunlight . I was surprised to see the sudden fade because I never even handled the figure much as a kid. He stayed in a carry case with all the rest. Its such a fickle thing with the metallic apps on MOTU. I never treated my Roboto with much care but he still looks perfect, my Extendar on the other hand, which I've only had as an adult collector piece, has one seriously green-oxidized glove. As far as I can tell it depends on wind speeds, star alignment and which side of bed you got out of that morning. Good to know Roboto can be repaired - same deal with Extendar??
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Post by rocklord74 on Feb 7, 2014 16:26:52 GMT -6
Extendar's gold paint is pretty much stuck that way. It's a simple paint app though, just get some gold paint at the hobby store.
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